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fluxcal_notes [2012/05/16 10:38]
amberb [Telecon, May 16]
fluxcal_notes [2012/06/13 10:18] (current)
amberb [Telecon, Jun 13]
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   * Figure out algorithm for error estimation (currently 15%, or RMS of values)   * Figure out algorithm for error estimation (currently 15%, or RMS of values)
   * check that planet brightness temp is different for different windows   * check that planet brightness temp is different for different windows
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 +===== Telecon, Jun 13 =====
 +  * online: Amber, Statia, Woojin, Manuel, Doug, Peter
 +  * data transfer issue at Illinois:
 +    * issue with script 
 +  * Peter - testing new code with Woojin
 +    * 3 mars tables: 
 +      * 1 is marstb original increments of 25 days
 +      * 2 is marstb2 stops at 115 GHz, increments of 6 hours
 +      * 3 is marstb3 1cm to 260 GHz, increments of 1 hours
 +        * this table is ~5 K cooler than old curves at 115 GHz - see Woojin's plots
 +        * need to check at other freq and if spec index is the same, then ask Brian Butler
 +    * can play with these in new miriad - marstb with table= (need to grab tar files for the tables first)
 +    * will build new binaries for school students tomorrow but it is in CVS now
 +    * fluxtest script is in Miriad now
 +  * fluxcal on science
 +    * memo out this week
 +    * maybe try this on dedicated tracks - send script to Woojin
 +
 +
 +===== Telecon, Jun 6 =====
 +  * online: Amber, Statia, Chat, Nikolaus, Andreea, Woojin, Manuel, Peter, Doug 
 +  * Woojin: more 1cm data points and 'new' models from Peter
 +    * still trying to sort out what these new models are: 'most recent models of Glenn Orton and Rafael Moreno' from Brian Butler
 +  * Peter: 
 +    * new model from Brian Butler on Mars - Jan 2010 - Dec 2020 in 1 hour intervals at 30-1000 GHz (this is becoming the standard model in CASA) - 11 MB
 +    * miriad program marstb will be able to read this soon - use table= to read 1hr cadence
 +    * Uranus and Neptune models - European + North American collaboration. Hofstader model is more appropriate at 1cm, but this model is better at 3mm and 1mm. 
 +  * fluxcal on science:
 +    * copy could take a minute or two but it does happen all in one go - check size of visdata 
 +    * multiple corr configs - Doug: sci1 track doppler tracking wasn't set up in first NOISE integration - this is nothing to worry about. sci2...?? wideband channels have a bandwidth of 0...maybe first antenna is being flagged by the system. maybe try re-running uvwide to recalculate the wideband channels from the spectral line channels. uvcat just spectral channels out options=nowide.
 +  * Andreea - looking for comments on everything (incorporated my comments)
 +
 +===== Telecon, May 30 =====
 +  * online: Amber, Statia, Chat, John, Andreea, Doug, Peter, Woojin, Manuel, Tom
 +  * Woojin: added new data points as well as JPL models (from Andreea) to plots
 +    * new data point: Mars track not good (3C84 low elevation, pointing didn't converge)
 +    * 1cm points: 5 or 6 tracks have been tried - planning to add these points soon
 +  * Andreea: looking at 1cm data 2 tracks from May 18
 +    * estimate the flux of 3C454.3 using Uranus and Neptune separately with different fluxes
 +      * JPL Nep 5.2
 +      * JPL Ura 5.3
 +      * CARMA Nep 6.7 (bootflux with nothing specified)
 +      * CARMA Ura 6.6 (bootflux with nothing specified)
 +    * looking now at dataset to figure out which of these fluxes is more appropriate using Mars
 +  * Doug getting Illinois set up
 +    * Peter uses Python package NTHOUGHT?
 +  * fluxcal on science running automated on the high site now, will be running at Illinois soon 
 +    * pass on to Manuel once we have fully documented (coming soon)
 +  * Peter contacted Mark Gurwell about Mars models
 +    * passed on to Brian Butler - haven't heard back yet (but Brian Butler is slow to respond)
 +    * been working on table reader in Miriad
 +    * can't officially distribute marstb2.tab (only to 105) until we get okay from Brian Butler
 +===== Telecon, May 23 =====
 +  * online: Amber, Statia, John, Andreea, Doug, Peter, Nikolaus, Woojin, Manuel, Tom
 +  * Andreea: working on 1cm abstest data
 +    * comparision of Uranus and Neptune models from Mark Holfstader show these models agree with eachother within 2%
 +  * Woojin: still needs more abstest data at 1mm
 +    * John points out that models are very similar at 1mm - 1mm data may not tell us much
 +    * perhaps 1mm Uranus/Neptune data could constrain Mars model at 1mm?
 +  * Mars model:
 +    * best bet seems to be szaCalcMars at 1cm, 3mm (diurnal + seasonal var) and marstb at 1mm (seasonal var only) for now
 +      * szaCalcMars uses a table that is almost identical to marstb2.tab, but has additional diameter columns (both of these tables only cover 26-115 GHz)
 +      * marstb uses marstb.tab - this is what is written into datasets by the online system (this table only covers 43 - 345 GHz)
 +      * Peter is working on a miriad program to read marstb2.tab, therefore making the diurnal variation mars model available in miriad
 +      * Peter will contact Mark Gurwell about getting diurnal variation Mars model good out to 1mm
 +    * fluxcal on science:
 +      * Doug got permissions worked out - we should be getting new datasets today
 +      * python install needed: Doug will check, but the best bet may be to put our own local install of python in our area
 +      * getting julian dates on the high site: high site date calculations are done in C, so we should just use a local copy of a python package to do it.
  
 ===== Telecon, May 16 ===== ===== Telecon, May 16 =====